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Here you will find two videos that recorded the then, up coming ‘secret – closed door session of the house of representatives on FISA.’ The main point to these was and is, that the “publics business is not, should not be, nor ever be held in private. This point was brought up on objections by certain Representatives. Also out of this meeting came many claims as to the substance, none of which came from verifiable reliable sources, even un named sources. This puts those who claim the secret meetings were and had a certain agenda with a scheme at no ability to prove their claims. They are simply rumor at this point. That is why you must understand ‘rumor and fact’, based on reliable sources. That is always the problem in the internet and even paper news or writing. Finding and naming sources, proving a point based on truth and not rumor. It is one thing to do it by accident, or find out that what you thought was fact is actually non fact but a theory ect and quite another to bring purposeful deception to a news article. I do not believe that those who brought up the secret meeting agenda were doing any kind of deception here. They were, which is of our writing here, belief they were bringing to the table what happened. Although there was no verifiable source. At any rate, watch the videos and read the following article. It includes emails by the WIBR/WARN to the editor of Australia.to, one source named by David Meyer, who in turn has been quoted and sourced by countless people. All of which, it turns out, is sourced to articles based on theories, rumors, and non verifiable sources. If there is a named or unnamed source who is a reliable one, let him speak on these issues. WIBR/WARN editor
Here is the first video and its description:
Secret Meetings on FISA in the Hous. Rep. Dennis Kucinich, Ohio, Democrat says that the US seems to be heading towards a ‘National Police State’ when the government holds such secret meetings on matters of National Security. He advises we must approach such meeting with objection. Further, Dennis Kucinich would not attend such a meeting.
Watch the other video and read the news and sourced info on this.
Secret Meetings, securing the chambers, for such notify members of congress via email of the secret meetings. Secretive meetings on FISA. Previous Secret sessions happened 1979, 1980,1983, and has not been a secretive meeting since then. 1825 three times there was secret sessions, then again in 1979. The trouble is the government business in secret and how it affects the Public. Conducting Publics business in secret was brought up as a point of order by Representatives who would protest such meeting and being brought there by false pretenses. There was visible skcepticism by LLoyd Doggett, D Texas on the privacy of such meeting.
Information: all subject matter discussed in secret session cannot be referred too or discussed out of the session.
“Doing the Publics business in Secret is a bad thing”.. Rep. LLoyd Doggett, Dem Texas..
Contents of the secret meetings has been all over the internet
The trouble with these contents, even given by David Meyer, is all related to non worthy news sources. There is no verifiable source, even the one listed by David Meyer is not a source, but a news article quoting ‘conspiracy theorists’. There is no record, no evidence, nothing. No one willing to even say they are quoting “secret sources” ect. Nothing.
So the contents of the meetings is for your perusual, but remember, there is a difference between the rumor and theories, and true verifiable facts.
The contents of the secret meetings was finally found by David Meyer of Last trumpet ministries, who in his May 2008 newsletter stated the following:
So here is the information quoted by David Meyer, and the research we did to find out more!
Like trying to verify this. The WIBR/WARN News
The contents of the secret meetings was finally found by David Meyer of Last trumpet ministries, who in his May 2008 newsletter stated the following:
David Meyer newsletter excerpt:
After diligently searching for more information, I finally found what I was looking for in an Australian newspaper. The story appeared in Australia.TO from Brisbane, Australia. The article stated that ABC News via WCPO confirmed that Congress members were forbidden to talk about what went on in their secret meeting. Several of the Representatives, however, were so furious and concerned about the future of the country that they began leaking info. Here are some of the things that were reportedly leaked out regarding the secret meeting: Discussion regarding the imminent collapse of the U.S. economy to occur by September 2008 – The imminent collapse of the U.S. Government finances by February 2009 – The possibility of Civil War inside the United States as a result of the collapse – The advance round-ups of “insurgent U.S. citizens” likely to move against the government – The detention of those rounded up at REX 84 camps constructed throughout the United States – The possibility of public retaliation against members of Congress for the collapses – The location of safe facilities for members of Congress and their families to reside during massive civil unrest – the necessary and unavoidable merger of the United States with Canada and Mexico – The issuance of a new currency called the AMERO for all three nations as an economic solution. (20) Obviously, there is no documentary proof for the above as the meetings were secret. The information, however, does fit the profile of what is going on around us. Our Almighty Saviour is ultimately in charge. Time will tell if these things are so, and time is running out!
The WIBR/WARN News Summary of what the contents of the meeting were to be. Again this is just rumor, i.e. non verifiable via any confirmed reliable source. This doesn’t mean it is false, it also doesn’t mean it is true. It is simply rumor, theory, ect. It is a non verifiable opinion piece.
• The possibility of Civil War inside the United States as a result of the collapse
• The advance round-ups of “insurgent U.S. citizens” likely to move against the government
• The detention of those rounded up at REX 84 camps constructed throughout the United States
• The possibility of public retaliation against members of Congress for the collapses
• The location of safe facilities for members of Congress and their families to reside during massive civil unrest
• The necessary and unavoidable merger of the United States with Canada and Mexico The issuance of a new currency called the AMERO for all three nations as an economic solution.
David Meyer’s source: (20) Obviously, there is no documentary proof for the above as the meetings were secret. Australia .TO, Mar. 25, 2008, Brisbane, Australia.
The difference between Rumors and News
I found the source of David Meyers quote. What I also found was the Magazine just quoted Theorists saying certain things. It does speak to issue that ‘word has begun leaking out’, but the words the magazine quotes are that of what they call ‘theorists’. They end the article with “That is the problem with secrets and inadequate explanations for their necessity, imaginations run wild.” But they further state that more information is forthcoming from sources and to stay tuned. The trouble is, there would be no further news that I could find out, even by contacting the editor. See the editors answer at the end of this blockquote. When first contacted the editor said he would like more time to investigate, then he said that nothing would be forthcoming. This is probably because he went to the senior editor who would not go on record for threat or the like manner. At any rate, their emails are at the end of the blockquote.
I further contacted Australia.to and got a response from the editor. The trouble here is that what is quoted as fact and news all over the internet has no verifiable evidence. What many sites use as evidence, per se the David Meyers source, which is Australia.to is not evidence or news worthy. The reason is that the Australia story only refers to what “Theorists” say. They clarify who the these “theorists” are by saying at the end of the article that these are “imaginations run wild”. Now the problem again is that there is no direct evidence, or other source. One which David Meyer points too. Also is the fact that working in the world of conspiracy Theorist and theorism, many times there are sources who do not want to be named for safety sake. The truth is somewhere in between the Article on the Australia site and the many theories. You can believe that the government doing the “publics business in secret” is a problem. They don’t want you to know something! They think they know better and many in the public are so caught up in their own life they don’t take time to hold those in authority accountable.
“That is the problem with secrets and inadequate explanations for their necessity, imaginations run wild.”
Also the Australia article said that the secret meetings were only held the fourth time in 176 years. This according to the videos we have posted is wrong. The government has held such meetings before. The congressmen who were upset by these “secret meetings” asked the session in the house about this. You can listen and watch the video to find out all the details of previous meetings.
Last week’s session was only the fourth time in 176 years that Congress has closed it’s doors to the public. {WIBR/WARN editors note: this is wrong, although they claim it to be true, watch video’s}
The article went on to say that “Word” has begun leaking from the last weeks special” closed door session. The trouble here is the only word they list is refered to as Theorists, theories, ect. This is not the kind of word that makes any difference what so ever. If there was a concrete word, the story should have cited ‘sources’ who are to remain anonymous ect.
Word has begun leaking from last weeks special, closed-door session of the United States House of Representatives.
The Emails to Australia.to
My email sent to the editor:Greetings;
In researching the closed session of the U.S. House of Representatives I have found many clues which are not clues but mere speculation and tripe. In this country, USA, and in the world of online internet news, which I am fully aware of, the bottom source from your Australia.to was quoted as fact in regards to the “US House Closed Door sessions”. I have two videos which will air on my website from the House of Representatives discussing the issue before it was to occur. In it they categorically say that this has happened more often than the four times many say in their reports.
The First Response
DanaGreg Rogers here. Editor www.Australia.to
May I have a day or so to prepare a meaningful reply to your message.
Thank you for getting in touch.
All the best
Greg Rogers
Editor
www.Australia.toThe Second Response:
DanaA quick note… today we had two emails asking for the link to the article… it must be important to many.. We republished it on the new look site .
I will get back to you with answers.
Greg Rogers
EditorThe Third Response
DanaAfter considering your request, we have decided that revealing anything other than what was published would not be in the interests of the contributors of information to our small site. We purposely left out some information that could not be verified independently and or which could not be published without revealing sources.
For information to be freely available online compromises have to be made.. something has to be left out, sources are protected and conclusions cannot be made.
All the best
Greg Rogers
Editor
Excerpts from the quoted source article on Australia.to
What was discussed at a closed session of the U.S. House of Representatives?
[http://www.australia.to/story/0,25197,23040466-922,00,00.html]
Tuesday March 25, 2008 7:37pm EST
BRISBANE, Australia
[the australia.to source listed is http://www.wcpo.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=1fde2498-d8c8-44f3-9c94-4a27f8407536]
Conspiracy theorists around the world have filled many pages of blogs and emails with theories as to why the public was prevented to hear what their elected representatives said and heard.
That is the nature of secrets: those “kept in the dark” want to know and in the absence of knowledge, seek answers.
Word has begun leaking from last weeks special, closed-door session of the United States House of Representatives.
Theorists wrote “Not only did members discuss new surveillance provisions as was the publicly stated reason for the closed door session, they also discussed: The imminent collapse of the U.S. economy to occur by September 2008, the imminent collapse of US federal government finances by February 2009, the possibility of Civil War inside the USA as a result of the collapse and advance round-ups of “insurgent U.S. citizens” likely to move against the government.
Also theorised was the detention of those rounded-up at “REX 84″ camps constructed throughout the USA and the possibility of retaliation against members of Congress for the collapses and the location of “safe facilities” for members of Congress and their families to reside during expected massive civil unrest
Other answers included “the necessary and unavoidable merger of the United States with Canada” (for its natural resources) and with Mexico (for its cheap labor pool), the issuance of a new currency – THE AMERO – for all three nations as the proposed solution to the coming economic armageddon.
That is the problem with secrets and inadequate explanations for their necessity, imaginations run wild.
If more comes in on this, we will update with other articles on this.. WIBR/WARN Editor
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